Russian Orthodox Patriarch Explains Stand on Homosexuality to Council of Europe
In his first visit to the Council of Europe on a mission to discuss inter-religious dialogue, the head of the Russian Orthodox Church, Patriarch Alexy II, gave a spirited defence of Christian morality. He noted that the notion of human rights in Europe stems, at least in part from Christian morality. “Yet today there occurs a break between human rights and morality, and this break threatens the European civilization,” he warned.“We can see it in a new generation of rights that contradict morality, and in how human rights are used to justify immoral behavior,” he stated.
The remarks prompted British Liberal Democrat council member David Russell-Johnston to demand an explanation of the Russian Orthodox leader’s opposition to the Moscow “gay pride” march.
“When persistent attempts were made to hold a homosexual parade in Moscow, we believed that that meant propaganda and advertisement of sin,” Alexy replied before the Council. The Patriarch compared homosexual sex acts to kleptomania and asked, “Why then (does) no one advertise kleptomania while homosexuality gets advertised via gay parades?”
“It is advertisement that is being forced on people who are a very long way from it,” Alexy added.The Patriarch stressed that persons who have such temptations and engage in homosexual acts are nonetheless loved by Christians. They are he said, “sinners whom we love while we hate their sin.”
“But at the same time we Orthodox Christians cannot depart from what is taught by the Bible and by the apostolic tradition of the church,” he added. “Nobody must try to force me or my brothers and sisters in faith to be silent and [to prevent us from] using the word sin for something that is called sin in God’s Word.”
Several Council of Europe members including the Russian representative applauded these remarks by the Patriarch, much to the chagrin of Mr. Russell-Johnston. The irate councilman called the Patriarch’s analogy between kleptomania and homosexuality “ridiculous” and dismissed the Patriarch’s remarks as merely having “repeated his aggressively intolerant position.”“What was regrettable was that a lot of people applauded him,” Russell-Johnston told the International Herald Tribune.
During his speech the Patriarch warned of just such intolerance of morality leading to Europe’s demise. “If we ignore moral norms, we ultimately ignore freedom too,” said Alexy. “Morality is freedom in action. It is a freedom brought into reality as a result of responsible choice, in which human person restricts his or her self for the good of that very person and broader society.”
“Moral principles secure societal vitality and growth, as well as unity of society,” he added. “And whenever moral norms are trespassed and declared to be relative, it may undermine the whole worldview of the Europeans. They may draw nigh to a disastrous moment when European nations risk losing their spiritual and cultural identity and ultimately their own place in history.”
See the full speech (which did not contain the replies to questions):
http://www.coe.int/t/dc/files/pa_session/sept_2007/20071002_disc_patriarche_en.asp
“Love the Sinner, Hate the Sin”
3, October , 2007 by Karin




See! This is why we need to end the Schism between East and West! Bishops whove seen the worst that Stalin and the communist attempt to extirpate them aren’t afraid of western politicians!
We could learn so much from these guys!
I’ve been telling you Catholics that for years Iggy.
I belong to the Antiochian Synod and not Russia but this is exactly what you hear from our Bishops too. In fact you can expect this from ALL Orthodox Bishops. We don’t change-not even on pain of death. Is what Patriarch Alexy said anything you wouldn’t hear from any pre-Vat2 Roman Bishop or Pope B16?
I have to say that it’s refreshing to see for once a respectful mention of my Church and catholics not lobbing insults at us like they do at Gerald’s blog.
On a side note, the Russian schism has ended between Moscow and the Church in Exile. Rome and the Non-Chalcedonians might not be too far off.
Vir–
I knoew about the ending of the shism between OCOR and the Partiarch of Moscow. Good stuff.
In the ’80s I worshiped in an Antiochene Catholic parish (Maroninte). I loved it, but there are no Eastern Rite Parishes in my region.
How can we disrespect the our Orthodox Bretheren when His Holiness has said that the Orthodox posess True Particular Churchs?
I’m aware of of theological and disciplinary differences, but really, compared to the differenced betwee us both, and the protestants, or the Non-Chalcedonians, or the Remanants of the Nestorians, or the Monophysites, they are minor.
I suspect that Alien Space Bats, looking at us from the outside, wouldn’t notice the differences.
I think they enrich The Body of Christ, and we need to grow up and get over it.