Well it looks like this blog has lost a comment-writer…
Karin - I’ll spell it out for you - I’m not going to post any more comments on your blog because you have the chutzpah (nerve) to edit the content of my comments. I have no problem with deleting comments that are off topic or otherwise inappropriate. I do have a problem with editing someone else’s words without their consent.
Well this blogs policy on comments is readily available for all to read before they leave a comment (it is highly suggested that this is done on all blogs). As to editing comments without a comment-writers consent (I see someone did not read the Victory Rule) otherwise this would not be an issue.
I am the Queen and Tyrant of this blog, and as such, I have the absolute right to not publish any comments that I find objectionable for whatever reason, including, but not limited to, vileness, colossal stupidity, or failure to stick to the subject of a post. Though some of you may not believe it, I may neglect to publish comments for charitable reasons, namely, to prevent the commenter, who has failed carefully to read what he is commenting on, and/or not thought his words carefully through, from further embarrassing himself. Furthermore, I do not owe anyone explanations as to why I have not published a comment or why I have edited a comment.
The moral of this story….read the rules on commenting before leaving comments on blogs. Then when your comment is deleted, not accepted or edited it will not be a ”surprise”.
karin,
i’d be interested to hear your opinion of the many cases of priests that fail to uphold their pledge to live a chaste life by molesting children, and the catholic church’s very tardy response to these cases.
Do you support groups like Voice of the Faithful?
I know this is off topic, but i don’t see a section on your blog for readers to suggest topics.
SHH-
Should we also discuss the abuse inflicted by Rabbi’s, Ministers, teachers, parents etc.?
Check this out…
http://www.bishop-accountability.org/reports/2004_02_CatholicLeague_SexualAbuse.htm
“Too often, assumptions have been made that this problem is worse in the Catholic clergy than in other sectors of society. This report does not support this conclusion. Indeed, it shows that family members are the most likely to sexually molest a child. It also shows that the incidence of the sexual abuse of a minor is slightly higher among the Protestant clergy than among the Catholic clergy, and that it is significantly higher among public school teachers than among ministers and priests. “
As a side note, any sexual abuse of minors, regardless of who does the abusing is UNACCEPTABLE!
“As a side note, any sexual abuse of minors, regardless of who does the abusing is UNACCEPTABLE!”
i agree with this. the part that i find frustrating is the slow response. taking somebody that is known to be repeatedly accused of being an abuser and leaving them in their position, or just relocating them to another position.
And i would hate to think that a response by the churchs or temples or offices or anywhere else is slower due to the rational that other groups molest as well.
SHH-
I am glad to see that we both have finally found a “common ground”.
And i would hate to think that a response by the churchs or temples or offices or anywhere else is slower due to the rational that other groups molest as well.
Have I implied this?
I think you have implied this. with this comment:
“Should we also discuss the abuse inflicted by Rabbi’s, Ministers, teachers, parents etc.?” to me that’s not a response to the issue at hand, it’s a response that says, in effect, it happens all over. in other words, i asked in my original post about your feelings about the Catholic churchs slow response to abuse. and you didn’t address that issue.
SHH-
In no way did I imply what you are suggesting.
My comment was a direct question to you. That is all. It helps to understand from the start the scope of what someone wants to discuss. And I am attempting to figure out the exact scope
I have yet to address the general question(s) that you have asked in your original comment, outside of stating– As a side note, any sexual abuse of minors, regardless of who does the abusing is UNACCEPTABLE!.
It is my humble opinion that it is only fair that we should discuss child abuse and the various religious sects reactions to it (not just the Catholic Church). Dont you agree? I mean why just single one religious entity out for bashing?
to me that’s not a response to the issue at hand,
That is becuase it is not. See post above.
it’s a response that says, in effect, it happens all over.
Yes, that is right. Do you disagree?
i asked in my original post about your feelings about the Catholic churchs slow response to abuse. and you didn’t address that issue.
No I did not answer your question(s). See post above.
I want to get the scope of the question SHH.(why are you asking this specific question) Are you out to bash a religion, than we should bash them all for how they handle sexual abuse.
Or are you out to prove another point?
i’m only asking you about the catholic church because, as far as i can tell, your blog is built around the theme of relaying the catholic view on things. is this correct? i don’t think that you or i could truthfully represent the jewish, protestant, or buddhist view for instance. sure, we could go to wickipedia, and do a quick search for a blurb, but that won’t add up to much substance in your conversation. I’m not looking to “bash” anyone. As you know, i have relatives that are devout catholics, and they’ve been very avtice concerning this issue. reforming the church to make sure that things that are reported don’t continue to be covered up. I know you are actively engaged in many church-related issues (resisting the “gay agenda”,, anti-choice movement, etc.), so i was merely asking if you were at all moved by this issue as well.
i’m only asking you about the catholic church because, as far as i can tell, your blog is built around the theme of relaying the catholic view on things. is this correct?
Yup.
I’m not looking to “bash” anyone
Well that is good to hear.
As you know, i have relatives that are devout catholics, and they’ve been very avtice concerning this issue.
Yes SHH, I am aware that you have relatives that are Catholic. From my understanding they also feel that the Church’s stance on homosexuals is incorrect and they are working on this issue also.
reforming the church to make sure that things that are reported don’t continue to be covered up.
What kinda “reform” are they looking for from the Church exactly? I do think that working to make sure there are no more cover-ups of sexual abuse cases is important and also to make sure that this does not occur again (sexual abuse regardless of where it occurs).
I am not familiar with the group, Voice of the Faithful, so I can not comment on them.
so i was merely asking if you were at all moved by this issue as well.
Moved by the issue of children being sexual abused, yes of course, who wouldnt be?
Just two things:
On the topic of the post: Yes, Your Majesty!
On the subject of comments–
According to the US justice department, the most likely place for a child or adolescent minor to be suxually molested/abused is in a public school, by a teacher.
According to the same estimate, California alonehas 350,000 public school children at risk for molestation by teachers.
I wonder about the compleate absecence of a response from the NEA or school boards nationwide.
Statistically, the percentage of priests who molest is equal to the percentage of men at large who molest. This is appaling–it should be much lower. but, the fact remains that it’s not higher. Much of the hullaballoo is simply a chance for anti-catholics to slam the church.
The percentage of teachers who molest is much higher than the population at large. So where is the outrage?
Check John jay university School of law, they’re the ones who did the statistics for the Abuse scandal in the Catholic church.
Here’s another scandal–80% of the abuse was of boys. but, pedophilia is defined in psychiatric literature as sexual fixation on pre pubescent and is considered independant of gender preference in prospective partners. In law it’s defined as sexual activity with children under 12. past puberty, or over the age of twelve, it’s properly known as ephibiphilia. That is linked to sexual preference. Of the males who were moleste/abused, the great majority were past the age of puberty, and were molested by males. The problem isn’t pedophiles, it’s gay chicken hawks–but it’s not politically correct to say as much.
BTW–Cdls. Law, Mahoney and a few others tried to hush up the statistic, and John Jay school of Law published them, and put them on the internet anyway.
Just two things:
On the topic of the post: Yes, Your Majesty!
Shh,
If you see this: What are you asking Karin for? Ask Cardinals Mahoney. Law and the other Bishops who covered these sickos. I would’ve shot them on site, but I’m not a Bishop and I’m not Catholic. I usually don’t re-read comments section after I so no need to respond to me.
Way to Go Redneck! Cite facts.